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Kwissy is a cheat
« on: November 27, 2013, 10:48:39 pm »
 

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http://www.n-ice.org/openttd/profile.php?user=Kwissy
Kwissy uses 2 companies at the same time, 1 to demolish & 1 to build
He then starts a new company, transfer all the money, and win the game in a very short time to get a high score
It will be nice to see his scores get removed from the servers and a ban
Thanks Admin
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2013, 11:21:44 pm »
 

alex879ro

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Ddr, thank you for posting. We will investigate all the recent games of this player and we will get back with an answer. If what you say is true, Kwissy is facing permanent ban.
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2013, 12:40:08 am »
 

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ddr, a timestamp would be more helpfull for alex879ro check logs

- and ofc, couple screenshots showing that;
- and well, the server chats (key below ESC show it)
- and !known <company_number> to see whos known in that specific company

This is for this case and to be considered for next player complaints. Better info makes admins decisions easier... a loooot!
Because players have the tools to see things too, with server !commands (type !help to see available commands)

but, and to the point again, if 2 companies used for the alleged purposes, alex879ro have the legit right to do it. period.
« Last Edit: November 28, 2013, 12:44:29 am by ST2 »
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2013, 03:23:08 am »
 

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The highscores where not done in a fast game and my last game on server 8 is also a while ago. For two companies you would also need two players to transfer money. First of all i never want to have a punishment again on n-ice, so i will never do that massive money-transfer again for what we got caught (Server8 - Score 927).  Second it does not make sense to have 1 company to demolish and 1 to build, the limits are not that harsh that you would really profit from it.
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2013, 03:26:02 am »
 

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DDR i still wait for you to proove your statement!
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2013, 03:36:35 pm »
 

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First of all, I need to finish mine. After checking the logs, I haven`t found any incriminating situations EXCEPT of course for the cheating on server 8 for which Kwissy has already been punished (4000 points deduction and 2 weeks of ban). Therefore, I have no other choice , but to conclude that Kwissy hasn`t cheated after that situation.

Conclusion is according to the stored information in the database. I did not consider that an even more deep investigation is required.
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2013, 02:34:09 pm »
 

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Thank you Alex for the time you invested.
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2014, 04:40:00 pm »
 

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kwissy makes tile clearing and builds adjacent stations. is it legal ?
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2014, 05:17:13 pm »
 

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This is the rule:

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Rule 5: Don't destroy towns/cities, only removal of small parts to get room for your station is allowed.

Small parts were cleared for his stations on capture screen, so it looks like legal. But if he had destroyed more houses then not legal.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2014, 05:21:24 pm by Chucky »
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2014, 05:51:57 pm »
 

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thank you. the weird thing is that BLUE stations are adjacent to RED
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2014, 06:06:21 pm »
 

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The server setting "allow building adjacent stations" is "on". Using CTRL, while building station directly adjacent to one another will form new station.
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2014, 09:47:59 pm »
 

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If someone obviously tries to compete me... he can have competition.
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2014, 06:12:27 am »
 

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to all admins that matter:
(I've replaced his connection by DNS and IP... to IP, so save his privacy)

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[06:08:36] * +OTTD-x5 * ---> Player (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined the game
[06:08:38] * +OTTD-x5 * >> Player (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined spectators
[06:08:41] <+OTTD-x5> Player (Spectator): [Kwissy - Automatically logged in]
[06:08:43] * +OTTD-x5 * <x> Player (#5/255 (Spectator)/CH) has changed his/her name to Kwissy
[06:08:45] * +OTTD-x5 * # Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has started company 1 ()
[06:08:53] * +OTTD-x5 * !! Kwissy (#5/1 (Green)/CH) has placed a sign: "WTF?" - at 25x36 (0x9019)
[06:11:34] <+OTTD-x5> Kwissy (Green): !resetme
[06:11:37] * +OTTD-x5 * X Kwissy Transport (1/Green) has been closed (Reset requested)
[06:11:39] * +OTTD-x5 * >> Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined spectators
[06:11:41] * +OTTD-x5 * # Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has started company 1 ()
[06:11:47] <+OTTD-x5> Kwissy (Blue): !resetme
[06:11:50] * +OTTD-x5 * X Kwissy Transport (1/Blue) has been closed (Reset requested)
[06:11:51] * +OTTD-x5 * >> Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined spectators
[06:11:54] * +OTTD-x5 * # Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has started company 1 ()
[06:12:02] <+OTTD-x5> Kwissy (Pink): !resetme
[06:12:04] * +OTTD-x5 * X Kwissy Transport (1/Pink) has been closed (Reset requested)
[06:12:06] * +OTTD-x5 * >> Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined spectators
[06:12:08] * +OTTD-x5 * # Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has started company 1 ()
[06:12:12] <+OTTD-x5> Kwissy (Green): !resetme
[06:12:16] * +OTTD-x5 * X Kwissy Transport (1/Green) has been closed (Reset requested)
[06:12:17] * +OTTD-x5 * >> Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined spectators
[06:12:24] * +OTTD-x5 * # Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has started company 1 ()
[06:12:27] <+OTTD-x5> Kwissy (Green): !resetme
[06:12:31] * +OTTD-x5 * X Kwissy Transport (1/Green) has been closed (Reset requested)
[06:12:32] * +OTTD-x5 * >> Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined spectators
[06:12:36] * +OTTD-x5 * # Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has started company 1 ()
[06:12:40] <+OTTD-x5> Kwissy (Red): !resetme
[06:12:42] * +OTTD-x5 * X Kwissy Transport (1/Red) has been closed (Reset requested)
[06:12:44] * +OTTD-x5 * >> Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined spectators
[06:12:46] * +OTTD-x5 * # Kwissy (#5/DNS [IP]/CH) has started company 1 ()
[06:14:37] * +OTTD-1 * ---> Player (#17/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined the game
[06:14:38] * +OTTD-1 * >> Player (#17/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined spectators
[06:14:41] <+OTTD-1> Player (Spectator): [Kwissy - Automatically logged in]
[06:14:43] * +OTTD-1 * # Player (#17/DNS [IP]/CH) has started company 4 ()
[06:14:43] * +OTTD-1 * # Player (#17/DNS [IP]/CH) has started company 4 ()
[06:14:45] * +OTTD-1 * <x> Player (#17/4 (Green)/CH) has changed his/her name to Eraz
[06:15:55] * +OTTD-1 * <--- Eraz (#17/DNS [IP]/4 (Green)/CH) has left the game (leaving)
[06:16:03] * +OTTD-1 * ---> Player (#18/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined the game
[06:16:04] * +OTTD-1 * >> Player (#18/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined spectators
[06:16:07] <+OTTD-1> Player (Spectator): [Kwissy - Automatically logged in]
[06:16:09] * +OTTD-1 * <x> Player (#18/255 (Spectator)/CH) has changed his/her name to Kwissy
[06:16:12] * +OTTD-1 * >> Kwissy (#18/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined company 4 (Green)
[06:17:27] * +OTTD-1 ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED! Player Kwissy has earned achievement: Docktor
[06:17:59] <+OTTD-1> Kwissy (Green): !resetme
[06:18:01] * +OTTD-1 * X Player Transport (4/Green) has been closed (Reset requested)
[06:18:02] * +OTTD-1 * >> Kwissy (#18/DNS [IP]/CH) has joined spectators
[06:19:32] <ST2> 1say Kwissy, after all those companies... is all like you want?

on this time he stopped! but I ask all n-ice players: was he cheating?
because if not, create that ammount of companies is allowed to all players!

his answer to me was: [06:48:19] <Kwissy> i didn't do anything wrong

that's why I ask if it's allowed?! I surely don't believe he created and reseted companies for pleasure of doing it!  - That's the usual behaviour of a troll or a cheater!!
but ofc, he can done anything wrong and all players can create companies same way... just tell here it's allowed!
Or we'll conclude Kwissy is a cheater!

thank you :)
« Last Edit: May 29, 2014, 06:15:59 am by ST2 »
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2014, 08:23:03 am »
 

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Just talked to him, he was looking for an achievement.
 

Re: Kwissy is a cheat
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2014, 10:20:18 am »
 

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ST2... first thing to note i fully respect the work you do for the community and know that you are an extremely experienced openttd admin/player.

If you would have listened to my very first words, in which i was saying that i was just looking for an achievement, we all just could have a nice day without this discussion. Here why i came to the idea for the reset-king achievemet:
can you make new achievements?
1) "banks worst nightmare" say getting bankrupted 10-20times
2) "ex ceo" "reset king" or soemthing you can think of. for !resetme 10-20times

just a suggestion

First you made a big secret and did not want to tell me why exactly you acccuse me:
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[07:37] <Kwissy> erm what exactly should i have done?
[07:37] <Kwissy> game related? chat related?
[07:38] <ST2> I don't care
[07:38] <Kwissy> oh yes you do
[07:38] <ST2> yup... I do
[07:39] <ST2> n-ice forum... in about 8 minutes
[07:39] <ST2> lemme filter what matters ^^
[07:40] <Kwissy> just give me a hint... is that to much?
[07:40] <ST2> you can read it after ^^
[07:40] <Kwissy> ok

And after that you not accept or investigate the given answer. I absolutelly know what you are expecting, someone that resets a company does it for his own advantage, to cheat the game etc... your point of view. Even after i explained it to you and you checked the logs, you are still stuck on that view. New situations and different behaviors, from what you expect, do not necessarily have to be a cheat. Deciding just on your experience and not accepting new situations makes you old.

Everyone who understands the log you postet here, can see that your conclusion is faulty. I was never with 2 companies online, so where should i've gotten an advantage? And if there would be an advantage, the only thing that comes to my mind would be for landscaping or city-behavior with at least 2 companies, which is absolute nonsense on the Aircraft-Server. I did not break the multicompany rule, and there is no rule which forbids you to reset your company at any time and so often you want.

Your statement "On this time he stopped!" is also absolute wrong... when you talked to me i already started a new company on S1 where i could try to get the Docktor-Achievement... not possible on X5.

Watch the whole chatlog and you can see that i found about 10 achievements this morning... gives you proove of what was my goal.

The way how you trow in the answer with the question is not very smart... it is so obvious that you never wanted to hear the answer of "all n-ice players". With the next post, please, talk to me and discuss things to the end. I always accepted the things you teached me and learned alot from your, never told you any untrue story in return. So i was a bit surprised, how you where acting like a complete different person this time.

I hope it was just a weak moment you had to post it without getting evidence first. It was never my intention to make you look like an idiot in here.