the !known trigger

[ST2]

by default, the !known <companyID> command could be used by all players, and helped when a specific player joined with a different name nick or with a different IP.

I tried to help some players but since this trigger was turned admin only, I can't!

Hopefully Chucky isn't trying to make this on the 4th Reich, because the active admins (Gopher and Naz) can't take it all ^^

So, why not keep the standard settings for some triggers, eh ^^


Edit by Chucky: This command is not important for players and usually not used by them. Hopefully it won´t be a start of discussions. No insults please.

[ST2]

well, since there was no reply, and no admins to help the player on the situation I'll post below:

[2018-01-24 22:40:31] * +OTTD--8 * <--- Unregistered451666 (#2223/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/3 (Blue)/US) has left the game (general timeout)
[2018-01-24 22:42:26] * +OTTD--8 * ---> Player (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined the game
[2018-01-24 22:42:26] * +OTTD--8 * >> Player (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:42:35] * +OTTD--8 * >> Player (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:42:35] * +OTTD--8 * <x> Player (#2390/3 (Blue)/US) has changed his/her name to Bobel
[2018-01-24 22:42:36] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:42:37] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:42:37] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:42:39] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:42:39] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:42:43] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:42:43] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:42:43] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:42:44] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:42:44] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:42:44] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:42:45] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:42:45] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:42:45] * +OTTD--8 * <--- Bobel (#2390/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/255 (Spectator)/US) has left the game (kicked by server)
[2018-01-24 22:43:10] * +OTTD--8 * ---> Player (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined the game
[2018-01-24 22:43:10] * +OTTD--8 * >> Player (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:43:10] * +OTTD--8 * <x> Player (#2392/3 (Blue)/US) has changed his/her name to Bobel
[2018-01-24 22:43:10] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:43:18] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:43:18] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:43:19] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:43:19] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:43:24] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:43:24] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:43:25] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:43:25] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:43:25] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:43:25] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:43:33] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:43:33] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:43:34] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:43:34] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:43:34] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:43:34] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:43:35] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:43:35] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:43:35] * +OTTD--8 * <--- Bobel (#2392/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/255 (Spectator)/US) has left the game (kicked by server)
[2018-01-24 22:44:02] * +OTTD--8 * ---> Player (#2395/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined the game
[2018-01-24 22:44:02] * +OTTD--8 * >> Player (#2395/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:44:02] * +OTTD--8 * <x> Player (#2395/3 (Blue)/US) has changed his/her name to Bobel
[2018-01-24 22:44:02] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2395/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:44:09] <+OTTD-x5> Executing automatic server restart (no companies for 1 hour 0 minutes)
[2018-01-24 22:44:10] <+OTTD-x5> OpenTTD server process terminated.
[2018-01-24 22:44:13] * +OTTD-x5 * ----- The game has been (re)started -----
[2018-01-24 22:44:13] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2395/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:44:13] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2395/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:44:14] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2395/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:44:14] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2395/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:44:14] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2395/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:44:14] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2395/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:44:14] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2395/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:44:14] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2395/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:44:14] * +OTTD--8 * <--- Bobel (#2395/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/255 (Spectator)/US) has left the game (kicked by server)
[2018-01-24 22:44:32] * +OTTD--8 * ---> Player (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined the game
[2018-01-24 22:44:33] * +OTTD--8 * >> Player (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:44:33] * +OTTD--8 * <x> Player (#2398/3 (Blue)/US) has changed his/her name to Bobel
[2018-01-24 22:44:33] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:44:39] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): admin
[2018-01-24 22:44:42] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): hell
[2018-01-24 22:45:06] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:45:06] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:45:22] <ST2> 8say type !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:45:23] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): admin
[2018-01-24 22:45:26] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): hell
[2018-01-24 22:45:36] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:45:36] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:45:41] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): admin
[2018-01-24 22:45:49] <ST2> 8say I'm not admin, but type !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:46:04] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): adim
[2018-01-24 22:46:14] <ST2> 8say damn, reas what I typed
[2018-01-24 22:46:19] <ST2> 8say read*
[2018-01-24 22:46:24] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): the company blue is me
[2018-01-24 22:46:29] <ST2> 8say I'm not admin, but type !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:46:34] <ST2> 8say do that
[2018-01-24 22:46:39] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:46:39] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:46:50] <ST2> 8say type !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:47:12] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): i need join my company
[2018-01-24 22:47:18] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): blue
[2018-01-24 22:47:18] <ST2> 8say read this:
[2018-01-24 22:47:20] <ST2> 8say type !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:47:28] <ST2> 8say or go learn how to read
[2018-01-24 22:47:39] <+OTTD--8> Unregistered175011 (White): lol
[2018-01-24 22:47:55] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): the game log me out
[2018-01-24 22:47:59] * +OTTD--2 * ---> Player (#833/157.157.248.127/IS) has joined the game
[2018-01-24 22:47:59] * +OTTD--2 * # Player (#833/157-157-248-127.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is [157.157.248.127]/IS) has started company 1 ()
[2018-01-24 22:47:59] * +OTTD--2 * <x> Player (#833/1 (Orange)/IS) has changed his/her name to Hiru
[2018-01-24 22:48:00] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:48:00] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:48:09] <ST2> 8say Bobel: type !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:48:13] <ST2> 8say is that hard?!
[2018-01-24 22:48:20] * +OTTD--6 * <--- InfiniteLemons (#582/S010664777d4795a3.vs.shawcable.net [96.55.33.152]/1 (Blue)/CA) has left the game (leaving)
[2018-01-24 22:48:21] * +OTTD--2 * <--- Hiru (#833/157-157-248-127.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is [157.157.248.127]/1 (Orange)/IS) has left the game (leaving)
[2018-01-24 22:48:29] <+OTTD--8> Unregistered175011 (White): no
[2018-01-24 22:48:34] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): yes
[2018-01-24 22:48:40] <ST2> 8say it is to him, it seems xD
[2018-01-24 22:48:40] <+OTTD--8> Unregistered175011 (White): lol
[2018-01-24 22:48:44] <ST2> 8say Bobel: type !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:49:16] <ST2> 8say if you want to join your company, type !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:49:20] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): the blue company is nine
[2018-01-24 22:49:20] <+OTTD--8> Unregistered175011 (White): !login 53TC
[2018-01-24 22:49:21] * +OTTD--8 * <x> Unregistered175011 (#2202/1 (White)/NL) has changed his/her name to joint.nl
[2018-01-24 22:49:24] <ST2> 8say if not, you're on your own
[2018-01-24 22:49:24] * +OTTD-x1 * <--- Agome (#2477/user-94-254-225-23.play-internet.pl [94.254.225.23]/1 (Cream)/PL) has left the game (leaving)
[2018-01-24 22:49:30] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): i was laying already
[2018-01-24 22:49:34] * +OTTD--2 * X Player Transport (1/Orange) has been closed (Auto-cleaned, 1 month without vehicles)
[2018-01-24 22:49:35] <ST2> 8say Bobel: type !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:49:38] <ST2> 8say if you want to join your company, type !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:49:40] <ST2> 8say if not, you're on your own
[2018-01-24 22:49:54] * +OTTD-x1 * <--- LeonNeon (#2478/acfo77.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl [83.9.216.77]/2 (Red)/PL) has left the game (leaving)
[2018-01-24 22:50:22] <+OTTD--1> Executing automatic server restart (no companies for 1 hour 0 minutes)
[2018-01-24 22:50:22] <+OTTD--1> OpenTTD server process terminated.
[2018-01-24 22:50:23] * +OTTD--1 * ----- The game has been (re)started -----
[2018-01-24 22:50:36] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): I will change the name when I log in again
[2018-01-24 22:50:44] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:50:44] * +OTTD--8 * >> Bobel (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined spectators
[2018-01-24 22:50:58] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): admin
[2018-01-24 22:51:08] <ST2> 8say I told you the way - just ignore me
[2018-01-24 22:51:10] <+OTTD--8> joint.nl (White): lol
[2018-01-24 22:51:30] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): ?
[2018-01-24 22:51:34] <ST2> 8say Bobel: type !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:51:46] <ST2> 8say simple as that
[2018-01-24 22:52:07] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:52:09] <ST2> 8say but I guess you already know me... that's why ignoring my hints ^^
[2018-01-24 22:52:17] <ST2> 8say Bobel: type !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:52:24] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:52:32] <ST2> 8say !name
[2018-01-24 22:52:36] <+OTTD--8> joint.nl (White): !
[2018-01-24 22:52:39] <ST2> 8say missed the !
[2018-01-24 22:52:46] * +OTTD--5 * <--- Magovit (#4909/argentina.com [191.187.194.181]/5 (Green)/BR) has left the game (leaving)
[2018-01-24 22:53:03] <+OTTD--8> Bobel (Spectator): !name Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:53:03] * +OTTD--8 * <x> Bobel (#2398/255 (Spectator)/US) has changed his/her name to Unregistered451666
[2018-01-24 22:53:13] * +OTTD--8 * >> Unregistered451666 (#2398/108-95-110-154.lightspeed.miamfl.sbcglobal.net [108.95.110.154]/US) has joined company 3 (Blue)
[2018-01-24 22:53:20] <ST2> 8say was that hard?
[2018-01-24 22:53:21] <+OTTD--8> joint.nl (White):
[2018-01-24 22:53:25] <+OTTD--8> Unregistered451666 (Blue): tank you
[2018-01-24 22:53:44] <ST2> 8say ok, now you can login ^^

To the admin that made !known trigger only usable by admins, better be more online - because some players could help other players, as stated above.
Because, and as I already stated, "Hopefully Chucky isn't trying to make this on the 4th Reich".

Btw, I've helped more players on n-ice that their admins, part of life and free time, true! But cutting commands, usually public available is NOT the solution!
To the admin that made it an admin only trigger, SHAME on you - get your boots on the the chats and help players - that's the way admins work!

note: I didn't hide IP's - people need to know who helped and who were not helped by admins!

[ST2]

well, nevermind my words - players will live xD

[ST2]

Edit by Chucky: This command is not important for players and usually not used by them. Hopefully it won´t be a start of discussions. No insults please.

Chucky, I'll start this with all the respect for you and your work. So, lets split your line:
1- Discussions aren't bad since each parts fundament their positions;
2- It isn't an insult when there isn't a hit!;
3- Command is IMPORTANT for players and used (maybe not noticed, I get that);

If point 3 wasn't noticed, that means no admins online, since it's an admin ONLY command now! And was made that way because other people tried to help players join their companies using the !known trigger. I'm wondering :S

Chucky: final conclusions, !known is trigger that doesn't hurt anyone(can even help), no unfair advantages, all can be see on IRC! Why make it admin only?